Primavera Sound Festival 2011 (ES)

Festival Forum: Diskussion zu Primavera Sound Festival Barcelona 2011 (u.a. mit Interpol, Pulp, The Flaming Lips, The National)

eröffnet von Stebbard am 19.10.2010 17:26 Uhr
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01.07.2011 00:20

Hello all, following there´s what Gabi Ruiz, one of the directors of the festival, posted talking about the solutions and the improvements we want to do for next year, and also asking the forum members to say what you think:

"After several days reading your conclusions about the 2011 edition I would like to open this thread and use it to reflect on what the 2012 edition should be like in order to improve whatever we can.
There are some things that go without saying and where what needs to be done is obvious:

- Bars: I have already started having meetings with the people in charge of setting up the bars in order to change their organisation. Basically we have asked them to find a new company to supply all the personnel putting emphasis on the preparation of the managers of each bar. These changes should have the desired effect.

- System of payment. We will implant a mixed system. We will improve the card system but it will also be possible to pay in cash.

- Toilets. Yesterday I was speaking to the production manager who once again told me that the number of toilets was more than enough but that they were going to carefully study their location. They have a report from the cleaning company that tells us which ones were the most used and which were hardly used at all. With this information we will be able to redistribute them.

- Sound. I have asked for more volume on the two main stages but as always we will be in the hands of the specific sound systems of the bands.

- Security. We are going to stop working with one of the companies in charge of security on the site.

- Llevant stage. We have to improve the access by asking the company that manages the Forum to tarmac another access to that stage. There is more than enough space; the problem is getting the layout right. We have also thought that we should change the position of the bars to encourage the spectators not to stay at the entrance while there is an empty space to the left of the stage. Maybe we should put a continuous programme on that stage to encourage people to stay there.

- Pitchfork Stage. Study the problems of feedback with the San Miguel Stage. Alternating the programme with this stage if necessary.
- Auditori. Don’t touch anything that is already good.

I am very clear on all these points and they are all relatively easy to solve. At least the problem is identified and we know how to proceed.

Right and this is why I have opened this thread. I would like to reflect on the capacity of the festival.
The average this year has been 40,000 people per day (33,000 full festival tickets and 7000 tickets per day).
I think this is a number of people we can deal without any problems. We just need another year with the same layout to solve the problems that have arisen this year. I really think that movement inside the festival this year was much better than in 2010. We also have to take into consideration that PS is an outdoor festival that takes place on a site that was not built for this type of use. What I mean to say is, that we cannot expect to see Neil Young from three meters away with the best of sound systems and without people brushing against us. We are not in a concert hall. However, good open-air concerts on big stages have a magic that makes them special.
So, at this stage I have read a lot of people asking us to limit the capacity. I have already said that there is no way that we will increase the 40,000 per day. Yes, we could reduce this number. And this is where I want to read your opinions. If we reduced the capacity to 35,000 people per day…. would you be willing to pay the corresponding rise in cost? Let’s not kid ourselves; PS is a cheap festival that has trouble making ends meet. From the 6.1-million budget (which could eventually go up to 6.3 m) only 5% is covered by public grants (some of which are returnable depending on objectives) and a 15% comes from sponsors. The rest, an 85% is covered by the price of the tickets and the takings at the bars (food and merchandising takings are practically negligible).
The majority of the tickets are sold before the press conference at a reduced price and many of them include the Pclub ticket that is a loss-making festival. There are other activities that do not generate any income like the concerts in the park and others that do not have direct profitability like the opening and closing parties in the Poble Espanyol and the concerts at the Apolo and other venues. None of this can be changed, for these very reasons PS sets itself apart from the others. Its identity marks are the number of stages, the quantity and quality of the bands, the Auditori and the extras that mean that the festival is with you all year round.
Having said all of this, we can divide the quantity that we would lose if we limited the capacity and can add this amount to each ticket. Obviously the cheapest ticket would notice this increase the most whilst those who have always paid more would barely notice the difference in price. We have to work it all out properly but perhaps this would mean that those who paid 100 euro this year would pay 125 and those who paid 180 would pay 185.

What do you think? It is the only way that I can see to reduce the capacity and to maintain the characteristics of the festival. Anyway, I have already told you that I think that we are capable of working with the current capacity to make PS a comfortable festival. But, I give you the option to reduce the capacity as many of you have asked us to do so.

Let’s keep it polite please. I will give you time to talk about it amongst yourselves, I do not want to influence your opinions"

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frusciantefan
31.05.2011 17:07

Ich hab sie dafür gesehen - dagegen war der Haldernauftritt letztes Jahr ein Kindergeburtstag, und das Konzert in Köln eigentlich auch. Richtig energievoll, super Setlist, 85 Minuten, zweimal Sufjan Stevens auf der Bühne, im Hintergrund die See - was will man mehr.

Stebbard
31.05.2011 09:07

Frevler, dass du The National ausgelassen hast! EitS ist ja wegen Haldern noch zu legitimieren

Aber liest sich gut, die Liste.

sunjb
31.05.2011 00:17



Die Liste liest sich fein.
Viel für die paar Tage

das muss ein unglaubliches Wochenende gewesen sein!


30.05.2011 22:25

Auch dieses Jahr wieder ein Traum, so muss ein Festival sein. Leider einige organisatorische Probleme am Donnerstag (Einlass, Bezahlsystem), ansonsten war aber wieder alles super. 2012 bin ich auf jeden Fall wieder am Start!

Gesehen habe ich folgende Bands:

Papas Fritas (2x)
Oh! Cake & The Cookie
Selector
The Black Angels
Me And The Bees
My Teenage Stride
BMX Bandits
Mercury Rev
Of Montreal
Grinderman
The Flaming Lips
Suuns
Big Boi
Oneohtrix Point Never
Sonny & The Sunsets
Interpol
Girl Talk
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti
Pulp
Belle & Sebastian
M. Ward
Avi Buffalo
Battles
Tennis
Deerhunter
The Fiery Furnaces
Tune-Yards
Gang Gang Dance
OFWGKTA
Animal Collective
PJ Harvey
Fleet Foxes
The Tallest Man On Earth
Einstürzende Neubauten
Rubik
Prince Rama
Yuck
Mogwai
Davila 666
Perfume Genius

Verpasst habe ich dutzende Highlights, darunter Low, Sufjan Stevens, Explosions In The Sky und The National feat. Sufjan Stevens (!)...

Hoffentlich geht die Zeit bis zum nächsten Mai ganz schnell rum.


EDIT: The Walkmen vergessen. Woaaah!

JoeStrummer
25.05.2011 21:56

Wenn ich Roberts Plan so anschaue, kommt schon etwas Neid auf!

Ich wünsche allen, die dort sind, viel Spaß!


25.05.2011 21:40

Sind zwar eh gefühlt alle Interessenten des Forums in Barcelona, aber vielleicht schaut ja trotzdem der ein oder andere mal rein:

The online television Primavera TV, in collaboration with the video platform Dailymotion, will for the first time broadcast whole live concerts during the three main days of the event from the Parc del Fòrum of Barcelona. San Miguel Primavera Sound live can be followed at www.primaverasound.com/tv and at www.dailymotion.com/video/xi2x15_primavera-sound-2011-live_music.



BROADCASTING SCHEDULE



Thursday 26th May

17.00 – 17.45 MARINA GALLARDO

18.00 – 18.45 TRIÁNGULO DE AMOR BIZARRO

19.00 – 19.45 SONNY & THE SUNSETS

20.00 – 21.00 OF MONTREAL

00.45 – 02.00 INTERPOL

04.00 – 05.00 SUUNS



Friday 27th May

17.00 – 17.45 AINARA LEGARDON

19.00 – 19.45 THE MONOCHROME SET

20.00 – 21.00 M WARD

21.15 – 22.15 PERE UBU

22.45 – 00.15 BELLE AND SEBASTIAN



Saturday 28th May

17.30 – 18.15 THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH

18.45 – 19.30 PAPAS FRITAS

21.15 – 22.15 EINSTÜRZENDE NEUBAUTEN

22.30 – 00.00 PJ HARVEY

02.00 – 03.15 ANIMAL COLLECTIVE

03.30 – 04.30 HOLY GHOST

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In sechs Stunden geht's los!


13.05.2011 16:47

Ich geb mal weiter den Alleinunterhalter...

Timetable ist da: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ap1Thnbaw_WUdGdDOHRPNUh6bUdJWW1abzFxemlFMUE&hl=es&authkey=COOTrewF#gid=2

Einige sehr böse Überschneidungen, aber im groben kann ich (außer EITS vs. Deerhunter) alle must-sees sehen. Das wird so groß, alleine Girl Talk während dem Sonnenaufgang erleben...

Mein grober (körperlich nicht machbarer) Plan:

Donnerstag:

Emeralds (Pitchfork)
Sonny & The Sunsets (Llevant)
Of Montreal (San Miguel)
Ducktails (Vice)
Glasser (Pitchfork)
The Walkmen (Pitchfork)
Grinderman (San Miguel)
Caribou (ATP)
Interpol (Llevant)
The Flaming Lips (San Miguel)
Girl Talk (Llevant)

Freitag


DM Stith (Auditori)
Sufjan Stevens (Auditori)
Avi Buffalo (San Miguel)
The Fiery Furnaces (Llevant)
M. Ward (San Miguel)
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti (Pitchfork)
The National (Llevant)
Belle & Sebastian (San Miguel)
Deerhunter (Llevant)
Pulp (San Miguel)
Battles (Rayban)

Samstag:

Perfume Genius (Auditori)
Za! (Rayban)
The Tallest Man On Earth (San Miguel)
Papas Fritas (Rayban)
Fleet Foxes (San Miguel)
Rubik (Vice)
Einstürzende Neubauten (Rayban)
Gang Gang Dance (Pitchfork)
PJ Harvey (San Miguel)
Mogwai (Llevant)
Animal Collective (San Miguel)
DJ Shadow (Llevant)
Kode9 (Pitchfork)

Sonntag (Poble Espanyol):

Me And The Bees
Deakin
My Teenage Stride
BMX Bandits
Mercury Rev perform Deserter's Songs




12.05.2011 16:57

Heute gab's eine Pressekonferenz:


Primavera Pro 2011 will take place at Hotel ME. Conferences, workshops, recepctions , showcases and meeting points. Official hotel of the festival.

Adidas stage will host concerts from international bands as well. Last year there were only spanish bands.

8 stages. One of the new, Llevant stage, for big names.
Pitchfork, jagermeister and Vice change their location.

Pitchfork stage under the fotovoltaic monster (as in 2008). Jagermeister and Vice just in front of the sea. San Miguel stage improves access points and location, but will be in the same place.

Venue goes from 48000 m² to 74000 m².

More services, more food stalls, more of everything.

Planning for an under-the-sea stage for next year, since all the venue is more sea oriented this year.

New system for buying drinks and auditori tickets, as explained earlier:
http://www.primaverasound.com/ps/?page=portal〈=en
Registration for the Portal will open today.

Primavera at the bars starts tomorrow. 8 days, 14 local bands, free for everybody.
Primavera A Viva Veu. 23 to 25th, acoustic sessions.
Red Bull Bus strolling around the city with Male Bonding, Javiera Mena, Atleta,la familia del arbol, fred i Son. From 26th to 28th.

In-edit @ Primavera Sound. Music docs as Dylan and Nina Simone. High on hope and Soul Train. Upside Down: the story of Creation Recorda y Vincent Moon: An Island.

Myspace and Rayban concerts in the Forum. VERY small venues.

INTERPOL free private concert for 800 persons at Apolo. Wednesday 25th.
http://www.primaverasound.com/ps/?page=noticias¬icia=304〈=en

Schedule: Tomorrow or Monday. This is totally unofficial.

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Hmpf, nächstes Jahr fliege ich dann wirklich zwei Wochen nach Barcelona.



05.05.2011 16:57

Primavera Al Metro

21´00 BEACH BEACH. M: Universitat (L1 i L2)
22´00 STEARICA. M: Diagonal (L3 i L5)
23´00 VIOLET LADES. M: Sagrada Família (L2 i L5)
00´00 VISTALEGRE. M: Universitat (L1 i L2)

Gratis-Konzerte in verschiedenen U-Bahnhöfen.


04.05.2011 14:18

Primavera Al Parc

Friday 27th May

The Fresh & Onlys, Ducktails, Sonny & The Sunsets, Las Robertas, Dotore, Maryland, Eladio y Los Seres Queridos / minimúsica als Coles: Anímic, Internet2, Manos de Topo

Saturday 28th May

Comet Gain, Espaldamaceta & Caballo, Tennis, Dan Melchior und Das Menace, Espanto, GAF, Zurych

Sunday 29th May

Papas Fritas, Autolux, Cloud Nothings, Seward, Inspira, The Birkins, Igloo

Gratis-Festival im Parc Miro.


27.04.2011 19:58

Mehr Showcases:

Eli "Paperboy" Reed playing his favourites
Mountains
Beach Beach
Darren Hayman
El Niño
El Gremio
Els Surfing Sirles
Kokoshca
Las Ruinas
Garotas Suecas
Els Trons




17.04.2011 15:48

Das einfachste und sicherste ist sicher www.hostelworld.co.uk, damit habe ich bislang nur gute Erfahrungen gemacht. Dieses Jahr habe ich mich aber nicht um die Unterkunft gekümmert, kann dir von daher nicht helfen. Im Zweifelsfall ist Hostelworld aber immer die richtige Adresse.

Alphamann
15.04.2011 20:01

An die Fahrer/Flieger: Wo habt ihr euren Schlafplatz gebucht? Überlegungen doch noch hinzufliegen mehren sich


15.04.2011 14:12

Deerhunter
Moon Duo
Prince Rama
Las Robertas
Espanto
Inspira
Dotore

Betunizer (Montag, 23.05.)
Capsula (Montag, 23.05.)
Bullit (Montag, 23.05.)
Darren Hayman (Montag, 23.05.)
The Secondary Modern (Montag, 23.05.)
The Bitter Springs (Montag, 23.05.)
Nacho Umbert & La Compañía (Montag, 23.05.)
Dead Western (Dienstag, 24.05.)
Capillary Action (Dienstag, 24.05.)
Schnaak (Dienstag, 24.05.)
+ special guests (Dienstag, 24.05.)
Mujeres (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Me And The Bees (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Za! (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Viva Ben-Hur (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Anímic (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Manos De Topo (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Evripidis And His Tragedies (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Internet2 (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)
Proyecto Personal (Children’s Activity Minimúsica)

Mancalledsun
04.04.2011 16:11

Das Ticket ist noch da, über den preis lässt sich verhandeln - wir sind ab Mittwoch vor Ort


29.03.2011 21:21

Stand für ein paar Stunden auf der Homepage der Booking-Agentur. Die haben die letzten Jahre auch immer mal früher ihre Acts fürs Primavera bestätigt, allerdings ist der betreffende Eintrag mittlerweile gelöscht.


29.03.2011 16:03

PrimaveraPro @ Primavera Sound Festival

Pájaro Jack
Tannhäuser
Deep Sea Arcade
Francis International Airport
Garotas Suecas
Jason Collett
Julia Kent
No Joy
The Birkins
GAF
Zurych
Fernando Milagros
Javiera Mena
Perrosky
Colectivo Oruga
Disco Las Palmeras!
Eladio y Los Seres Queridos
Igloo, Maryland
Nouvelle Cuisine
The Car Is On Fire
Kyst
Woody Alien


Mancalledsun
25.03.2011 15:58

Aloa, aufgrund veränderter Planung habe ich habe ein Ticket zuviel: Es soll 150.- kosten, gilt für alle Tage, stammt direkt vom Online-Ticket-Shop auf der Primavera-Seite und ist nicht personalisiert.

Am liebsten wäre es mir, wenn man vorher "näher in Kontakt treten" kann damit beide Seiten wissen dass auch alles in Ordnung ist (ist es meinersits garantiert

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